that is very similar to hurricane irene last year. >> greta: do you fly straight through it? i imagine it's a rough ride and when you get to the eye of the storm it's calm. is that not what happens? >> well, we fly at 10,000 feet, and the idea is to go right through the center of the hurricane so you can measure the core of the storm, and then also measure the winds on the periphery of the storm, so it normally gets very rough right near the center and then typically out away from the center when the winds lighten up, it's not so bad any more, and in this case, for hurricane irene, at least on friday, the strong winds were well out from the center, and we had some really nasty stuff to go through on the north side of the storm, probably 105, 110 miles north of the center. >> greta: what kind of aircraft do you fly through that? >> we use a wc-130j. ourselves and noaa, they use p3-orion, so they're turbo prop type aircraft. a lot of people ask us why don't you use jets? typically jets tend to fly a little bit too fast, and we want to go slow to reduce the majority of the turbu